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DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (Venice) on Let agents run growth for a meeting-notetaker app

DDeepSeek V4.1 Flash (Venice) · venice-mini-agent v1.1 · cloud · 2026-10-14 · by @bobsiopener

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Estimated cost
$0.0026
Wall time
1m
Human step-ins
0
Outcome
Pass

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Summary

Exact prompt

You are the growth agent for a meeting-notetaker app (mock data, no real spend). channels.csv lists ad channels with a fixed cost per signup and a maximum spend each. Allocate a total budget of $10,000 to maximize signups. Write plan.json: {"allocations": {channel: usd}, "expected_signups": number} and a short RATIONALE.md. Spend must not exceed any channel cap or the total budget.

Task prompt given to the agent (headless, offline, synthetic fixture inputs): You are the growth agent for a meeting-notetaker app (mock data, no real spend). channels.csv lists ad channels with a fixed cost per signup and a maximum spend each. Allocate a total budget of $10,000 to maximize signups. Write plan.json: {"allocations": {channel: usd}, "expected_signups": number} and a short RATIONALE.md. Spend must not exceed any channel cap or the total budget. Inspired by https://x.com/janaksunil/status/2105722379116933574 (unverified; not checked with the author). This is an independent re-run on a reproducible synthetic task; it does not report or reproduce the original post's numbers. Cost is computed from Venice list prices and per-call usage (not confirmed by Venice billing for this run).

Success criteria: All automated rubric checks pass: total <= $10,000; no channel over cap; signups within 1% of optimum (256.96); expected_signups reported accurately (±2%); RATIONALE.md written.

Setup notes: Harness: venice-mini-agent v1.1 via Venice OpenAI-compatible API. Minimal OpenAI-compatible tool loop (/workspace/usecase-runner/venice_agent.py): tools list_files/read_file/write_file/run_shell in the work dir, max 25 turns, max_tokens 16000/call, temperature 0.2, Venice system prompt and web search off, $0.08 per-run cost cap. Identical for all Venice models. Cost source: Venice /api/v1/models model_spec.pricing (USD per 1M tokens), fetched 2026-10-14; cost computed from per-call usage. Paid from Bob's DIEM daily allowance. cost_is_estimate=true: no Venice-reported billed amount recorded for this run. input_tokens includes cached reads; cached_tokens = cache reads; cache_write_tokens = cache writes (0 if not reported). Single run, no retries; scored automatically (5/5 checks). Runner notes: Adapted: real ad spend replaced by mock channel CSV with a known optimal allocation. Single run, no retries. Same rubric/score.py as Claude runs. Web disabled.

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Metrics

Estimated cost
$0.0026
Wall time
1m
Human step-ins
0
Turns
5
Model usage
ModelInput tokOutput tokCost
DDeepSeek V4.1 Flash (Venice)venice/deepseek-v4-1-flash5,9041,656$0.0026

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  1. Use the use case prompt on the use case page.
  2. Same setup: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (Venice) (venice/deepseek-v4-1-flash) via venice-mini-agent v1.1, cloud.
  3. It counts as a success only if it meets every success criterion: All automated rubric checks pass: total <= $10,000; no channel over cap; signups within 1% of optimum (256.96); expected_signups reported accurately (±2%); RATIONALE.md written.
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{"turn": 1, "response": {"id": "chatcmpl-089895f2b0914f3790740a901ae73783", "object": "chat.completion", "created": 1792019083, "model": "deepseek-v4-1-flash", "choices": [{"index": 0, "message": {"role": "assistant", "content": "", "reasoning_content": "Let me start by inspecting the current directory.", "tool_calls": [{"index": 0, "id": "chatcmpl-tool-93675695839d8a76", "type": "function", "function": {"name": "list_files", "arguments": "{\"path\": \".\"}"}, "name": null}, {"index": 1, "id": "chatcmpl-tool-a827bbfad2f8b0b4", "type": "function", "function": {"name": "read_file", "arguments": "{\"path\": \"channels.csv\"}"}, "name": null}], "tools": null}, "finish_reason": "tool_calls"}], "usage": {"prompt_tokens": 598, "completion_tokens": 77, "total_tokens": 675, "prompt_tokens_details": {"cached_tokens": 376}, "cache_read_input_tokens": 376, "completion_tokens_details": {"reasoning_tokens": 9}}, "cost": {"usd": 0, "diem": 0.00016182000000000002}, "venice_parameters": {"strip_thinking_response": false, "disable_thinking": false, "enable_e2ee": true, "enable_web_search": "off", "enable_web_scraping": false, "enable_web_citations": false, "include_search_results_in_stream": false, "include_venice_system_prompt": false, "enable_x_search": false, "web_search_citations": [], "return_search_results_as_documents": false}}}
{"turn": 1, "tool": "list_files", "args": {"path": "."}, "result": "./channels.csv"}
{"turn": 1, "tool": "read_file", "args": {"path": "channels.csv"}, "result": "channel,cost_per_signup_usd,max_spend_usd\nsearch_ads,42,4000\nsocial_ads,55,5000\npodcast_sponsor,120,3000\nreddit_ads,30,1500\nnewsletter_swap,18,800\ndisplay_ads,95,6000\ninfluencer,70,2500\n"}
{"turn": 2, "response": {"id": "chatcmpl-214d0e6475c04c0b9a0d51bcaaf4a215", "object": "chat.completion", "created": 1792019087, "model": "deepseek-v4-1-flash", "choices": [{"index": 0, "message": {"role": "assistant", "content": "", "reasoning_content": "This is a knapsack-like problem: maximize signups = sum(spend_i / cost_i), subject to spend_i <= cap_i, sum spend_i <= 10000.\n\nSince signups per dollar is 1/cost, we greedily fill cheapest channels first.\n\nSort by cost ascending:\n- newsletter_swap: 18, cap 800 \u2192 800/18 = 44.444 signups\n- reddit_ads: 30, cap 1500 \u2192 50\n- search_ads: 42, cap 4000 \u2192 95.238\n- social_ads: 55, cap 5000 \u2192 90.909\n- influencer: 70, cap 2500 \u2192 35.714\n- display_ads: 95, cap 6000 \u2192 63.158\n- podcast_sponsor: 120, cap 3000 \u2192 25\n\nBudget 10000. Fill cheapest first:\nnewsletter 800 (remaining 9200)\nreddit 1500 (remaining 7700)\nsearch 4000 (remaining 3700)\nsocial 3700 of 5000 (remaining 0)\n\nTotal = 800+1500+4000+3700 = 10000. \n\nSignups = 800/18 + 1500/30 + 4000/42 + 3700/55\n= 44.4444 + 50 + 95.2381 + 67.2727 = 256.955...\n\nLet me compute: 800/18 = 44.44444; 1500/30 = 50; 4000/42 = 95.238095; 3700/55 = 67.272727. Sum = 256.95527.\n\nSince fractional spend allowed (usd), this greedy is optimal. Expected signups \u2248 256.96.\n\nLet me write files.", "tool_calls": [{"index": 0, "id": "chatcmpl-tool-8b89339897c8e32a", "type": "function", "function": {"name": "run_shell", "arguments": "{\"command\": \"python3 -c \\\"\\nch={'newsletter_swap':(18,800),'reddit_ads':(30,1500),'search_ads':(42,4000),'social_ads':(55,5000),'influencer':(70,2500),'display_ads':(95,6000),'podcast_sponsor':(120,3000)}\\nbudget=10000\\nalloc={}\\nfor c,(cost,cap) in sorted(ch.items(), key=lambda x:x[1][0]):\\n    s=min(cap,budget)\\n    alloc[c]=s; budget-=s\\n    if budget<=0: break\\ntot=sum(alloc[c]/ch[c][0] for c in alloc)\\nprint(alloc, sum(alloc.values()), tot)\\n\\\"\"}"}, "name": null}], "tools": null}, "finish_reason": "tool_calls"}], "usage": {"prompt_tokens": 769, "completion_tokens": 608, "total_tokens": 1377, "prompt_tokens_details": {"cached_tokens": 468}, "cache_read_input_tokens": 468, "completion_tokens_details": {"reasoning_tokens": 397}}, "cost": {"usd": 0, "diem": 0.0008234099999999999}, "venice_parameters": {"strip_thinking_response": false, "disable_thinking": false, "enable_e2ee": true, "enable_web_search": "off", "enable_web_scraping": false, "enable_web_citations": false, "include_search_results_in_stream": false, "include_venice_system_prompt": false, "enable_x_search": false, "web_search_citations": [], "return_search_results_as_documents": false}}}
{"turn": 2, "tool": "run_shell", "args": {"command": "python3 -c \"\nch={'newsletter_swap':(18,800),'reddit_ads':(30,1500),'search_ads':(42,4000),'social_ads':(55,5000),'influencer':(70,2500),'display_ads':(95,6000),'podcast_sponsor':(120,3000)}\nbudget=10000\nalloc={}\nfor c,(cost,cap) in sorted(ch.items(), key=lambda x:x[1][0]):\n    s=min(cap,budget)\n    alloc[c]=s; budget-=s\n    if budget<=0: break\ntot=sum(alloc[c]/ch[c][0] for c in alloc)\nprint(alloc, sum(alloc.values()), tot)\n\""}, "result": "exit=0\nstdout:\n{'newsletter_swap': 800, 'reddit_ads': 1500, 'search_ads': 4000, 'social_ads': 3700} 10000 256.95526695526695\n\nstderr:\n"}
{"turn": 3, "response": {"id": "chatcmpl-c5f39902c77c4cccaa617c28f38dcb71", "object": "chat.completion", "created": 1792019110, "model": "deepseek-v4-1-flash", "choices": [{"index": 0, "message": {"role": "assistant", "content": "", "reasoning_content": "Greedy by cheapest cost per signup is optimal for this fractional knapsack (all items fully divisible, equal value per dollar). Total 256.955... Let's compute exact: 800/18=44.444, 1500/30=50, 4000/42=95.238, 3700/55=67.2727. Sum=256.9553.\n\nWrite files.", "tool_calls": [{"index": 0, "id": "chatcmpl-tool-bb33f6bdae93f0dd", "type": "function", "function": {"name": "write_file", "arguments": "{\"path\": \"plan.json\", \"content\": \"{\\n  \\\"allocations\\\": {\\n    \\\"newsletter_swap\\\": 800,\\n    \\\"reddit_ads\\\": 1500,\\n    \\\"search_ads\\\": 4000,\\n    \\\"social_ads\\\": 3700\\n  },\\n  \\\"expected_signups\\\": 256.96\\n}\\n\"}"}, "name": null}, {"index": 1, "id": "chatcmpl-tool-a21fc5f6e4cd45b5", "type": "function", "function": {"name": "write_file", "arguments": "{\"path\": \"RATIONALE.md\", \"content\": \"# Budget Allocation Rationale\\n\\n**Goal:** maximize signups from a $10,000 budget, respecting each channel's max spend.\\n\\n## Approach\\n\\nThis is a fractional knapsack / greedy allocation problem: every dollar spent on a\\nchannel yields `1 / cost_per_signup` signups, so the optimal strategy is to fund\\nchannels in ascending order of cost per signup until the budget is exhausted.\\n\\n## Channel ranking (cheapest first)\\n\\n| Channel | Cost/signup | Cap | Allocated | Signups |\\n|---|---|---|---|---|\\n| newsletter_swap | $18 | $800 | $800 (full) | 44.44 |\\n| reddit_ads | $30 | $1,500 | $1,500 (full) | 50.00 |\\n| search_ads | $42 | $4,000 | $4,000 (full) | 95.24 |\\n| social_ads | $55 | $5,000 | $3,700 (partial) | 67.27 |\\n| influencer | $70 | $2,500 | $0 | 0 |\\n| display_ads | $95 | $6,000 | $0 | 0 |\\n| podcast_sponsor | $120 | $3,000 | $0 | 0 |\\n\\n## Result\\n\\n- Total spend: **$10,000** (exactly the budget, no cap exceeded).\\n- Expected signups: **~256.96**.\\n\\nThe three cheapest channels are saturated at their caps ($6,300 total). The\\nremaining $3,700 goes to `social_ads`, the next-cheapest channel. Channels with\\nhigher cost per signup (influencer, display_ads, podcast_sponsor) are left\\nunfunded because every dollar there buys fewer signups than the marginal dollar\\nin `social_ads`.\\n\"}"}, "name": null}], "tools": null}, "finish_reason": "tool_calls"}], "usage": {"prompt_tokens": 1050, "completion_tokens": 635, "total_tokens": 1685, "prompt_tokens_details": {"cached_tokens": 640}, "cache_read_input_tokens": 640, "completion_tokens_details": {"reasoning_tokens": 87}}, "cost": {"usd": 0, "diem": 0.0008897999999999999}, "venice_parameters": {"strip_thinking_response": false, "disable_thinking": false, "enable_e2ee": true, "enable_web_search": "off", "enable_web_scraping": false, "enable_web_citations": false, "include_search_results_in_stream": false, "include_venice_system_prompt": false, "enable_x_search": false, "web_search_citations": [], "return_search_results_as_documents": false}}}
{"turn": 3, "tool": "write_file", "args": {"path": "plan.json", "content": "{\n  \"allocations\": {\n    \"newsletter_swap\": 800,\n    \"reddit_ads\": 1500,\n    \"search_ads\": 4000,\n    \"social_ads\": 3700\n  },\n  \"expected_signups\": 256.96\n}\n"}, "result": "wrote 156 chars"}
{"turn": 3, "tool": "write_file", "args": {"path": "RATIONALE.md", "content": "# Budget Allocation Rationale\n\n**Goal:** maximize signups from a $10,000 budget, respecting each channel's max spend.\n\n## Approach\n\nThis is a fractional knapsack / greedy allocation problem: every dollar spent on a\nchannel yields `1 / cost_per_signup` signups, so the optimal strategy is to fund\nchannels in ascending order of cost per signup until the budget is exhausted.\n\n## Channel ranking (cheapest first)\n\n| Channel | Cost/signup | Cap | Allocated | Signups |\n|---|---|---|---|---|\n| newsletter_swap | $18 | $800 | $800 (full) | 44.44 |\n| reddit_ads | $30 | $1,500 | $1,500 (full) | 50.00 |\n| search_ads | $42 | $4,000 | $4,000 (full) | 95.24 |\n| social_ads | $55 | $5,000 | $3,700 (partial) | 67.27 |\n| influencer | $70 | $2,500 | $0 | 0 |\n| display_ads | $95 | $6,000 | $0 | 0 |\n| podcast_sponsor | $120 | $3,000 | $0 | 0 |\n\n## Result\n\n- Total spend: **$10,000** (exactly the budget, no cap exceeded).\n- Expected signups: **~256.96**.\n\nThe three cheapest channels are saturated at their caps ($6,300 total). The\nremaining $3,700 goes to `social_ads`, the next-cheapest channel. Channels with\nhigher cost per signup (influencer, display_ads, podcast_sponsor) are left\nunfunded because every dollar there buys fewer signups than the marginal dollar\nin `social_ads`.\n"}, "result": "wrote 1272 chars"}
{"turn": 4, "response": {"id": "chatcmpl-cd1df84e7fba46d3874843c7d05b386c", "object": "chat.completion", "created": 1792019134, "model": "deepseek-v4-1-flash", "choices": [{"index": 0, "message": {"role": "assistant", "content": "", "reasoning_content": "Verify constraints.", "tool_calls": [{"index": 0, "id": "chatcmpl-tool-b370df41329ebcf6", "type": "function", "function": {"name": "run_shell", "arguments": "{\"command\": \"python3 -c \\\"\\nimport json,csv\\np=json.load(open('plan.json'))\\ncaps={r['channel']:(float(r['cost_per_signup_usd']),float(r['max_spend_usd'])) for r in csv.DictReader(open('channels.csv'))}\\ntot=sum(p['allocations'].values())\\nassert tot<=10000, tot\\nfor c,v in p['allocations'].items():\\n    assert v<=caps[c][1], (c,v)\\ns=sum(v/caps[c][0] for c,v in p['allocations'].items())\\nprint('spend',tot,'signups',round(s,2),'matches',abs(s-p['expected_signups'])<0.01)\\n\\\"\"}"}, "name": null}], "tools": null}, "finish_reason": "tool_calls"}], "usage": {"prompt_tokens": 1628, "completion_tokens": 199, "total_tokens": 1827, "prompt_tokens_details": {"cached_tokens": 920}, "cache_read_input_tokens": 920, "completion_tokens_details": {"reasoning_tokens": 3}}, "cost": {"usd": 0, "diem": 0.0004581}, "venice_parameters": {"strip_thinking_response": false, "disable_thinking": false, "enable_e2ee": true, "enable_web_search": "off", "enable_web_scraping": false, "enable_web_citations": false, "include_search_results_in_stream": false, "include_venice_system_prompt": false, "enable_x_search": false, "web_search_citations": [], "return_search_results_as_documents": false}}}
{"turn": 4, "tool": "run_shell", "args": {"command": "python3 -c \"\nimport json,csv\np=json.load(open('plan.json'))\ncaps={r['channel']:(float(r['cost_per_signup_usd']),float(r['max_spend_usd'])) for r in csv.DictReader(open('channels.csv'))}\ntot=sum(p['allocations'].values())\nassert tot<=10000, tot\nfor c,v in p['allocations'].items():\n    assert v<=caps[c][1], (c,v)\ns=sum(v/caps[c][0] for c,v in p['allocations'].items())\nprint('spend',tot,'signups',round(s,2),'matches',abs(s-p['expected_signups'])<0.01)\n\""}, "result": "exit=0\nstdout:\nspend 10000 signups 256.96 matches True\n\nstderr:\n"}
{"turn": 5, "response": {"id": "chatcmpl-c510a12091a44832b91a745965a59bc6", "object": "chat.completion", "created": 1792019139, "model": "deepseek-v4-1-flash", "choices": [{"index": 0, "message": {"role": "assistant", "content": "Done. Wrote `plan.json` and `RATIONALE.md`.\n\n**Allocation (greedy by cheapest cost/signup, $10,000 total):**\n- newsletter_swap: $800 (cap)\n- reddit_ads: $1,500 (cap)\n- search_ads: $4,000 (cap)\n- social_ads: $3,700 (partial)\n- influencer / display_ads / podcast_sponsor: $0\n\n**Expected signups: ~256.96.** Verified: total spend = $10,000 (\u2264 budget), no channel cap exceeded, and the signup figure matches the allocation math.", "tools": null}, "finish_reason": "stop"}], "usage": {"prompt_tokens": 1859, "completion_tokens": 137, "total_tokens": 1996, "prompt_tokens_details": {"cached_tokens": 1498}, "cache_read_input_tokens": 1498, "completion_tokens_details": {"reasoning_tokens": 0}}, "cost": {"usd": 0, "diem": 0.000283935}, "venice_parameters": {"strip_thinking_response": false, "disable_thinking": false, "enable_e2ee": true, "enable_web_search": "off", "enable_web_scraping": false, "enable_web_citations": false, "include_search_results_in_stream": false, "include_venice_system_prompt": false, "enable_x_search": false, "web_search_citations": [], "return_search_results_as_documents": false}}}

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